Nyberg, in commenting on my paper on radical conservatism, examines my position through the prism of his own distinction between socialization and education. He believes that I fail to make that necessary distinction and hence produce a false synthesis, when none is either desirable or possible. Specifically, he finds faults with my reliance on the terms fit and tradition, which, perhaps, he sees as unsatisfactory analogs for socialization and education. In responding, I shall examine the usefulness of his analysis of schooling in an attempt to determine whether or not my failure to reflect it illustrates an important shortcoming of my position. Socialization, to Nyberg, includes preparation for employment and citizenship. Education, in contrast, consists of the development of a capacity to enjoy the life of the mind. It is important to stress that Nyberg's statement is neither a theory nor a hypothesis but a classifying system. The question to be asked is whether this particular taxonomy is useful. Schooling in contemporary society is such a complex phenomenon that I, for one, do find it quite useful to carve up and categorize the different functions schools fulfill. Bereiter (1972), for example, made a useful division of the territory into three categories-training, custodial care, and education, with education being given much the same meaning as that attributed by Nyberg. The beauty of Bereiter's division was that it was fairly easy to see the boundaries of the three activities. There is little confusion between training and education, largely because Bereiter sees education as being exclusive of training. Similarly, custodial care consists of activities that provide neither training nor education. Nyberg's division is much less helpful. For him, socialization would appear to include a very large proportion of contemporary schooling and yet, even so, the distinction between it and education is not a clear one. Presumably instruction in a college of arts could be both socialization and education at the same time. Furthermore, different students could be either socialized or educated (or both) by the same instruction. For example, one student might be interested in a career as a professional musician, another only in selfexpression, and a third student in both. The second one, whom Nyberg would presumably wish to assess on the basis of self-fulfilment, might later change